Pooled Staking

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Pooled Staking on Ledger Live

Staking pools provide an opportunity for users to stake amount of ETH and receive a proportionate share of the rewards. This is particularly beneficial for Ethereum staking because it allows individuals who do not possess the required 32 ETH to still participate and earn rewards.

Staking fee

Kiln takes full responsibility for managing and operating the validator on your behalf in return for a fee. The current fee for this service is 12% of total pooled rewards.

FAQs

General

chevron-rightWhat are the risks of staking?hashtag

Staking is not risk free.

Read our detailed overview of staking risks here.

chevron-rightWhy do I see "staking pool is not supported in your country or region"?hashtag

The staking pool is not available to all countries or regions. Please check the 'terms and conditions' of the Kiln dapp via Ledger Live for the latest updates and service availability.

chevron-rightIs there a minimum & maximum stake allowed?hashtag

When staking via Ledger Live, 0.05 ETH is the minimum stake amount but keep in mind that when staking small amounts, gas fees could exceed your stake and potential rewards, making it less cost-effective.

There is no maximum requirement in the pool, allowing you the freedom to stake any amount of ETH you desire.

chevron-rightHow to stake in Ledger Livehashtag
  1. Connect a wallet

  2. Open 'Discover' and find the Kiln dapp

  3. Select 'Pooled staking'

  4. Before staking, read and fully understand the 'terms and conditions' and product documentation to ensure you are familiar with how the product works

  5. Enter the amount you wish to stake and follow all the on-screen prompts.

chevron-rightIs there a bonding period when staking in the pool?hashtag

The value of staked positions are typically recalculated daily. If the pool already has active validators generating rewards, you will need to wait for up to 24 hours for the calculations to reflect the changes in the value of your stake.

chevron-rightWhat happens after I stake my ETH?hashtag

You always receive a soulboundarrow-up-right token in your wallet that represents your staked position and withdrawal rights.

The token symbol is psETH and it can viewed in your wallet using a block explorer such as Etherscan.

chevron-rightCan I transfer or trade the staked position soulbound tokens?hashtag

No, these are non-transferable and are only used to represent the ownership of your staked position, including withdrawal rights.

chevron-rightCan I access and operate my position if Kiln UI is not available ? hashtag

Yes, you can find a step by step guide in Smart Contract interaction

Pool Rewards

chevron-rightWhat is the reward rate of the pool?hashtag

The current rate is not a guarantee of future performance.

The reward rate is the trailing 7-day average rate of the pool, inclusive of fees. It is updated daily.

It represents the annualized percentage of rewards generated by all pool validators in relation to the total staked amount.

Staking fees are automatically deducted from rewards generated by the pool.

chevron-rightHow does the pool generate rewards?hashtag

Validators are created based on the ETH being deposited into pool, and these validators generate rewards.

All consensus layer and execution layer rewards from validators supporting the pool are returned to the pool and compounded. This means the rewards received are used to create more validators in the pool.

These validators work in exactly the same way, and run in the same infrastructure, as the validators that are created for stakers engaging in native staking (32 ETH, dedicated validators).

chevron-rightAre rewards compounded?hashtag

Yes, all rewards generated by validators are returned to the pool and compounded, allowing for more validators to be created.

chevron-rightAre the validators in the pool MEV-enabled?hashtag

Yes, we use all of the relays that are listed herearrow-up-right so there is a cross section of max profit, ethical and regulated.

Receiving Rewards

chevron-rightAre rewards automatically sent to my wallet?hashtag

No, rewards are not distributed directly to your wallet.

Instead, staking rewards accrue to your staked ETH position automatically, so the value of that position increases inline with rewards generated by the pool and proportional to your stake.

chevron-rightHow long does it take to receive rewards?hashtag

The value of staked positions are typically recalculated daily at 12h30 UTC (14h30 CET). If the pool already has active validators generating rewards, you will need to wait for up to 24 hours for the calculations to reflect the changes in the value of your stake.

chevron-rightHow often do rewards accrue to staked positions?hashtag

Individual staked positions are typically recalculated on a daily basis at 12h30 UTC (14h30 CET) after an oracle report is submitted.

chevron-rightHow do I see the current value of my staked position?hashtag

Go to the 'Rewards' tab and scroll down to 'Pooling' and find 'Staked balance'

chevron-rightHow do I see the rewards my stake has received?hashtag

Go to the 'Rewards' tab and scroll down to 'Pooling' and find 'Total rewards'.

Total Rewards displays the total amount of rewards you have received since staking in the pool.

Withdrawals

chevron-rightCan I partially withdraw my stake?hashtag

Certainly, you can withdraw any amount up to and including the current value of your stake.

chevron-rightHow do I withdraw my staked ETH?hashtag

Under normal circumstances, the withdrawal period can take anywhere between 1-5 days.

To begin the process, you need to β€˜request an exit’ from the β€˜Rewards’ tab.

Once that has been processed and fulfilled, you can withdraw your ETH from the same tab.

Withdrawal Process

chevron-rightHow does the withdrawal process work?hashtag

Withdrawing ETH from the pool is a three staged process:

  1. Request exit

  2. Wait for your request to be fulfilled

  3. Claim your ETH

Request exit

  • Issue a request to withdraw an amount of ETH from the pool. After the transaction is confirmed and executed, you'll be issued an 'exit queue ticket', which is a soulboundarrow-up-right NFT token representing your withdrawal request.

    Wait for your request to be fulfilled

    • Exit requests are processed on a daily basis at 13h30 UTC (14h30 CET) and it usually takes several days before the request is fulfilled. Once fulfilled, you will see that the 'withdrawable balance' is updated. Your ETH can be claimed from the smart contract.

    Withdraw your ETH

    • When your ETH is available, you will need to perform a 'claim transaction' during which the NFT will be burned in exchange for the ETH.

    • Go back to the Kiln dapp in Ledger Live and click 'Rewards'.

    • Click 'withdraw' and follow the on-screen prompts to approve the transaction on the Ledger device.

      example transaction
chevron-rightDo I still earn rewards while I wait to exit the pool?hashtag

No, rewards will no incur anymore after you request to exit the pool.

chevron-rightWhat are the Kiln withdrawal NFTs?hashtag

Your withdrawal request is represented by an NFT and automatically generated when you make a request. You can also add it into your wallet.

When your ETH is ready to claim and withdraw, the NFT is burnt in exchange for the ETH.

chevron-rightCan I transfer or sell the NFT?hashtag

No, the withdrawal NFT is a soulboundarrow-up-right token and cannot be transferred.

Withdrawal Time

chevron-rightHow long does it take to withdraw from the pool?hashtag

All exit requests are typically processed daily at 12h30 UTC (14h30 CET), so it can take up to 24hrs for your exit request to be processed.

The pool uses available validator rewards for withdrawals. If demand exceeds supply, validators are exited programmatically alongside future rewards. This may result in longer withdrawal times, depending on the validator exit queue length.

Under normal circumstances, the withdrawal period is estimated to take between 1-5 days.

chevron-rightWhat factors affect the withdrawal time?hashtag

The pool smart contract utilizes available ETH received from validator rewards and deposits to facilitate the withdrawal process, and if demand for withdrawals exceeds the supply, the pool will programmatically exit validators to help meet the demand.

Depending on the length of the validator exit queue, this can lead to longer withdrawal times.

  • Ethereum (Beacon chain) validator exit queue: when the pool needs ETH by exiting validators, it must wait for the full protocol exit and withdrawal process. This is a variable time depending on the number of validators trying to exit at the same time.

  • Staking and withdrawal demand: the pool uses rewards and deposits to help service exit requests faster. If the demand for exits exceeds the supply and validators must be exited, this can add additional time.

  • Timing of exit request and next oracle report: oracle reports are processed once per day and at a high level, the reports allow for calculation of rewards earned, processing of exit requests, validator activation/exit. For example, If you request an exit 1 minute after the oracle, you must wait 24hrs for the next report to acknowledge that request.

Rewards analytics

chevron-rightHow can I access my pooling rewards outside of the Ledger Live dApp?hashtag

There are two ways to do this:

  1. query on the ledger live contract https://etherscan.io/address/0x5DB5235b5C7e247488784986e58019fFFd98FdA4arrow-up-right the view function balanceOfUnderlying(addr) where addr is the address of your wallet to get the ETH amount of the staked position

  2. use our public The Graph endpoint with this query https://query.thegraph.kiln.fi/subgraphs/name/vsuite/graphql?query=%7B%0A++erc20S%28wher[…]++++totalUnderlyingSupply%0A++++totalSupply%0A++%7D%0A%7Darrow-up-right (replacing 0x8411Daa13eb8312c0F9b725F6f00E4D76cd7C558 with your wallet address) and do sharesBalance * totalUnderlyingSupply / (totalSupply * 10^18)

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